Monday January 20 is inauguration day in the US. So everybody raise your right hand, and for those listening here at home, hang onto those Canadian passports.

A dozen years ago The Donald was just another tanned game show host when I interviewed him in his 26th floor office at Trump Tower in New York. Now I’ve reached into the vault and fired up the time machine to bring you a conversation about TV, the world in general and why he feels both always need a bad guy.

The Apprentice host went directly into his signature charm offensive, saying he had checked me out with his friends at NBC who allegedly told him if he spoke with one reporter from Canada, I was “the guy.” (The same line he used on Elon Musk.)

Being played like this was a ton of fun, but that was then. Who could have known that this former real estate hustler would be a two-term US president and be seen by some as one of the most dangerous men on the planet?

Tune in to hear about The Apprentice, the late Joan Rivers (“she’s tough”), David Letterman (“great guy”), the Canadian economy at the time (“your banks were smart”) and the war in Afghanistan (“a mess”).

One technical note: the 2013 conversation was recorded on a tiny recorder, so the sound quality is not the best. Trust me though, the conversation is worth leaning into, especially at this shorter-than-usual length. To listen in, simply click on the white arrow in the blue dot above.

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